The murders of Libby, 14, and Abby, 13, uprooted the small Indiana community of Delphi, leaving many to wonder who could commit such a heinous act - kill two teenage best friends who had their . I also didnt take the trail that leads to the right. WLFI article Community continues to search for missing teens, 8. BUT WHY WAIT SO LONG!!! I mean, how many other eye colors are there, other than blue? Then he said, There was at least one doll at the crime scene.. "It's concerning that it's a local guy," Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said Monday at a press conference. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Police have released very little information on the cause of deaths. I didnt see the girls at all. Did she see him before the crime or after the crime? Prosecutors accuse Allen of forcing the girls off of the trails east of the city near the Monon High Bridge. [6], An article is published by WLFI which interviews Mike Patty who says The cellphone has been pinging around town and here there is a cellphone tower but the ping was last noted around five to six hours ago. ine said. The rumor that dolls were scattered around the crime scene seems patently ridiculous. Or maybe someone gave him a ride or a worker for the graveyard saw him. Undated. Something's fishy I think. The police obviously know who theyre looking for. The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nation's most heinous, unsolved murders.. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13 . Murder Victim Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana February 13, 2017. The slain girls' families were also regulars at the restaurant, Matlock said. The exact body disposal location has never been released by law enforcement. On April 22, 2019 law enforcement released about one second of video of which the previous stills had been taken from. That's beyond careless. Anyone can post out here, and thats pretty much what happens, unfortunately. failed . If you were parked there or know who was parked there please contact the officer at the command post at the Delphi city building. Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. "So who knows what lies ahead? A new donor hopes that an addition to the reward fund for the Delphi murders in Indiana will help authorities catch the killer. I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, Family members of Liberty German and Abigail Williams listen as Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter announces the arrest of Richard Allen for the girls' 2017 murder Oct. 31, 2022. Note the more bulbous shape of the nasal tip not present in Figure A. Surprisingly, after all this speculation about if the attack the was recorded, when Sheriff Tobe Leazenby was asked point blank the attack was recorded in a video interview, he answered that it was not. From 16-17, females are very fertile but their hips are not wide enough to give easy birth to a child, hence the high rate of complications. But they were both definitely on board via the sexual posing of the girls, the dolls on the ground, and the sheet with the smiley face on it at the very least. "The bridge has been used as a backdrop for photo shoots like senior pictures, wedding photos, or to simply capture the beauty of the untouched nature that surrounds it." "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" On February 15, 2011, the Indiana State Police department released a still image of a man seen walking near the Monon High Bridge the same afternoon Abby and Libby were there. Journal and Courier article 1.2 M to Restore Monon High Bridge, 10. I don't think it looks like BG. Click the tweet to view the imageat a larger size. Normally this website would consider this type of information to be rumor and not include it, however due to the high credibility of the two hosts, this is a special circumstance. They just do it for the Hell of it. Police dont call this man a suspect or person of interest in the murders. In what is the finest coup for our group of ~230 paid members, a retired homicide detective from Washington DC joined our group as a paid member! True Crime podcasts, which have exploded in popularity over the last decade, have been credited with impacting numerous other previously unsolved high-profile crime cases. In addition, we talked to two other people who both told us they had inside sources. They told us that their inside sources (plural) had all told them that there was some sort of luring of the girls to the site on the day of the crime. So while this does not back up the catfish theory per se, it does seem that a lot of evidence is converging on the notion that the girls were lured to the bridge that day, including about five separate sources, albeit most of them being vague. You are the best btw! Based on my understanding through reading the case so far, there were at least 4 witnesses at around the trail that day at around the time of "down the hill" (slightly before or after) 16 years-old girl. . "What will be the evidence against him? Kim Riley discusses the sketch released Monday of a man believed to be connected to murder of Liberty German and Abigail . After over five years, a man has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. One is a middle-aged woman in her 40s with kids who is otherwise completely normal, and the new one who has come forward is a different woman in her 30s. Members of the Delphi community should reflect back on people they know in the community that look similar to the sketch released on April 22nd, especially if that person has changed their appearance since the murders occurred in February of 2017. Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee have been reporting on the 2017 double homicide of Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, for almost two years on their smash-hit podcast The Murder Sheet. [13]. Witness sees Delphi Murder suspect, but just recently comes forward to help with composite sketch This article says the recent sketch was from a witness who saw BG. I'm not sure, the article says the "witness" saw the man WALKING near Delphi the day after the murders.. And nobody else saw him? The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nations most heinous, unsolved murders. He is described as a white male between 5 feet 6 inchesand 5 feet 10 inches tall, weighing between 180and 220 poundswith reddish-brown hair. It could be literally anything. Two days after the new sketch was given, a news bulletin was released to clarify the relationship between the two sketches: Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points about the Delphi Murder Suspect Sketches. "I think the media in these cases can play a very important role in informing the public and keeping people focused on the facts of the investigation as opposed to speculation, as well as keeping interest in the case going, and tips pouring in," explained ine. I know we are on 2 different paths. The owner, Bob Matlock, told the paper the accused killer would come in with his wife three to four times a week. Nevertheless, more and more evidence continues to pile up that this rumor is actually true. On the 15th, Indy Channel wrote an article saying: Indiana State Police also want to talk to anyone who was parked at High Bridge Trail Head on Monday, February 13, between 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. An article from WTHR says audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. To me they are like magicians pulling rabbits out of hats. So why does the composite differ so much from the suspect? Its believed that the killer may be from or has lived in the city of Delphi. "Thats what I guess was the biggest shock.". Newly Unsealed Documents (in Text Format) Show 'the Smoking Gun' Used to tie Richard Allen to Delphi Murders. Is it possible that the doll or stuff toy came from the old welfare building or CPS building that was torn down? The previously released sketch. She said his eyes were dark and evil. It is unclear at the moment whether the Young BG sketch is from this witness or is the Catfish Boy used on Snapchat to lure in the girls, or if the drawing represents both the young man seen at the crime scene and the Catfish Boy lure. Stepson X being involved in either of these two ways is simply a theory based on the resemblance to the sketch, we are not accusing this young man of anything, and we request that everyone absolutely leave him alone. And so the other sketch was somebody saw, in the area, and was suspicious about. There may well have been a giant stuffed bear at the scene that day. Also thankful for the efforts of podcasters and reporters was Libby's mom, Carrie Timmons, who told The U.S. Sun in a statement on Monday night: "I am so very grateful for all of the loving support and kind words from friends, family, and even strangers. The sketch released on Monday was drawn by Bryant on Feb. 17, 2017, a few days after the victims' bodies were found. He did not charge her, she said. Chillingly, the trail - a defunct wooden railway track hidden in the woods -had been where Libby and Abby were last seen alive. I saw videos of the bridge and also videos of the trails, if witnesses are seeing other witnesses or even saw BG then isnt it strange that they didnt see Libby or Abby? I constantly see your name pop up there. Also this rumor has been somewhat backed up by a third LE sources close to the investigation, who said both girls had been violated with foreign objects. Now we have three references to this statement, all from the police themselves. This is what I was told by my own mother, so take it as you will. Were seeking the publics help to identify the driver of a vehicle that was parked at the old CPS/DCS welfare building in the city of Delphi that was abandoned on the eastside of county road 300 North next to the Hoosier Heartland highway between the hours of noon to five pm on February [13th] 2017. Investigators searched Allen's home two weeks ago, with a focus on the property's fire pit, FOX 59 reported. Was the secret that one of them had found out she was pregnant? I forgot to mention that you said that you may have a motive? We simply think that he ought to be investigated for possible involvement in the crime, unwitting or not. In this video taped interview, Holeman says: On February 23, 2017Sheriff Leazenby gives an interview and based on this interview some media outlets wrote articles such asthe one written by CBS-4 Indianastating: The following day,February 24, 2017, Sheriff Leazenby speaks to the press again to clarify his earlier statements. A Google Street View photo on August 2018 shows the building is now torn down: However the building had not been torn down and can be seen still standing on February 14, 2017 in RTV-6 helicopter footage. D. Prater is Caleb Bowlin, eh? Why fly all over the country looking at hatchet criminals unless the crime involved a hatchet? The detective had never heard of you? Abby and Libby had been enjoying a day off school, hanging out at the Delphi Historic Trails when they disappeared on Feb. 13, 2017. German's grandmother, Becky Patty, told FOX 59 that Allen was the CVS worker who processed her granddaughter's photos for her funeral. Hes used to being part of teams with differing opinions. German was your usual extrovert, with a dream of one day becoming a science teacher. It's a name that will now be forever tied to one of the darkest chapters in Delphi history: Richard Allen. Photo from the perspective of the railroad bridge, view from the west facing east. It is on the other side of Deer Creek that the bodies are found. I think a witness would assume that the suspect was a local or from the nearby region and that the witness was probably a local. . or redistributed. Source:Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points Indiana State Police Bulletin. Hopefully we can talk about some of the things that Ive come up with. In this case, Stepson X would be completely innocent and would instead have been simply used as a pawn by Mr. X in committing his crime. However, I just heard via DDcups, a man from Australia, and an excellent poster on the Reddit Delphi subs, that he contacted someone who knew a Delphi police officer, and this person told him his police friend had stated that dolls were scattered around the crime scene. Hi Robert have donated to become a member of the Delphi group! Jul 17, 2017 Updated Sep 28, 2017. "'He got there and nobody was there. ABC 21 reports that an anonymous donor gave $100,00 for the reward fund to help catch the person who killed two young girls over three years ago. There has been some debate online as to whether the Libby's cell phone was physically recovered by law enforcement, the idea being that the video could have been pulled from an app or cloud service if the phone was missing. They reference you on Reddit all the time. DELPHI MURDERS: WITNESS TIMELINE (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST)Examining the witnesses around the Monon High Bridge and the trail. . Multiple news agency were in this news conference on the morning of Wednesday, February 22, 2017. Thanks Remah! We now feel that the cut to this girls throat was with a hatchet, although we do not have confirmation of this other than what looks like a hatchet in BGs right jeans area and reports that investigators went clear out of the state to check out two other hatchet criminals. "The witness is the main focus. The offender approached them from the north western side moving south east towards them. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. building torn down. So now we have testimony from three excellent sources two independent search party members and an LE source close to the investigation. By 4 p.m., it was like, 'oh man,''said Patty. " Updated: Nov 29, 2022 / 06:57 PM EST. The picture was based on the description of a person who saw something that the person felt needed to be reported, according to Bryant. "If somebody knows something, they need to tell us. I always thought it was child protective services until last year. by Pentagon Pedophile Task Force on June 26, 2021 at 9:37 P.M. c) Where was fsg while BG was on the bridge with Abby and Libby? Further, this rumor was first made after the wife of a detective working on the case posted online. Whether law enforcement is sure the DNA they have is the definitively the offender's is unknown. Anotherhaunting photowas posted by his wife onFacebookwhich shows the Indiana man smiling excitedly in front of what appears to be one of the two police composite sketches of the murder suspect. Rockefeller Audio 2022. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. ine said she and Kevin are both "curious" about Carter's comments and similar remarks made by Carroll County Prosecutor Nick McLeland, who stressed tip lines would be remaining open. Initially law enforcement released stills from this video of the suspect. If that dick I mean Gray Hughes got any tip, it was from the information I sent to the family, that possibly like the snake he is might have retrieved this information. They were reported missing that night, and their lifeless bodies were found the next day in a wooded area about half a mile from the railroad bridge. . At this press conference, the police also released a short video clip of the suspect obtained from Libbys cell phone. First, a pitch for supporting this website and our private sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. It said, We have a secret and the photo shows both of them holding up their hands in secret signs. This sketch replaces an older sketch that was provided on July 17th, 2017. [9], The Monon High Bridge Trail is 1.44 mile long trail. Libby was murdered in 2017 alongside her best friend, Abby Williams Credit: YouTube. The renderings are a "ballpark estimation of what the person looks like.". (Indiana State Police). They were murdered in a very short window of time between 2:07 pm (when Libby posted a picture of Abby to Snapchat) and 3 pm (when other witnesses were in the area but heard no sounds). It was Child Protective services. Maybe he encountered the killer on his property and either knew or didn't knkw him and was scared to come forward cause he made threats or he knewhes get in trouble for drinking and maybe was so drunk he wasn't sure if it happened. So I yelled down and told them that. "He has not been on our radar, we don't know whose radar he was on. ", "A Delphi police detective searches the scene near midday Tuesday where two bodies were found near the banks of Deer Creek.". The girls were reported missing by 5:30 p.m., and an Amber Alert was sent out across the state of Indiana for the missing teenagers. I think much of it might be true. The Indiana State Police superintendent explains the reason for the different sketches. Allen appeared before Carroll County Circuit Court Judge Benjamin Diener Oct. 28 and entered a not-guilty plea. The police keep saying they're close to solving the case, is that true or is that a bad sign that they're far from it? Delphi Murders: ISP says new audio, video and sketch shows Libby & Abby's killer. For all we know the witness didn't know about the crime someone and once they heard of it they called be tip in. makes me wonder if they're combining a profile of DNA found at the scene and a best guess at his facial features based on isotope and NASA's rumored enhancement of the bridge images. Kim Riley. The crime was absolutely videotaped and photographed. A sheriffs deputy in a nearby town who stated: One of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. This would have been found on autopsy, and a statement like that usually means 6-8 weeks pregnant. Or a random person at the graveyard saw him. Photo Source: Strange Unexplained Mysteries (website). The sketch was drawn from an eye witness description of a man seen walking the trails the afternoon of the murders. I would really like to get some input from you, since you have been doing one heckofa job. 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