Friends told police that Hannah, from Great Yarmouth, and David, from Jersey, left the club together between 3am and 4am. Pathologists and legal experts criticised the police for mishandling the evidence, allowing contamination of the crime scene and failing to use experts to collect forensic evidence. [44] In December 2014, the suspects were each indicted on five charges: premeditated murder, killing to conceal a criminal offence, rape, illegal entry into Thailand, and staying in the country without permission. Officers revealed they are working on the theory that David Miller, 24, and Hannah Witheridge, 23, were killed in a copycat attack of the rape and murder of Reading University student Katherine Horton, 21, who was murdered by two Thai fishermen on the nearby island of Koh Samui on New Years Day in 2006. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Bernd Grotsch 2017; Dr Cary also said there were signs that Hannah had been dragged and sexually assaulted. Two weeks later, two illegal Burmese migrant workers were blamed for the deaths, primarily on the basis of DNA evidence, and confessed following an hours-long interrogation. No one is immune.'. His remark appeared to blame murdered Briton Hannah Witheridge for exposing herself to a brutal attack on the paradise island of Koh Tao. Norfolk coroner Jacqueline Lake recorded a conclusion that Hannah had been unlawfully killed. Dunno if this is what your looking for but emmet till. [67][21][68] The conviction was primarily guided by the DNA evidence,[67][69] and the court said it did not consider their confessions in making the judgement. I was forced to look at these photos for a DUI class when I was 14 because I was caught smoking weed. Block of flats among this week's plans Block of flats among this week's plans, Four-bed cottage with amphitheatre style gardens is for sale for 745,000, Defence from Riley Peckham continues as he explains relationship with his father Defence from Riley Peckham continues as he explains relationship with his father, 'You stupid boy!' The two men deny murdering Miss Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey. [42][48] Amnesty International stated that Thailand "must initiate an independent, effective and transparent investigation into mounting allegations of torture and other ill-treatment by police". [63] They plead not guilty to the charge at the trial, but Wai Phyo changed his plea to guilty during the proceedings. [48][35] A 900-page police report was produced to guide the prosecution's case, but the defence were not allowed to see the report until the trial began. "There has been lots of chit-chat on the internet. Submissions should outline a mystery and provide a link to a more detailed review of the case such as a Wiki article or news report. [21][25] There was tearing present at the vulva, bruising on the perineum, and a bite mark on her right nipple. Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:52 am, Users browsing this forum: Google Feedfetcher, Newinkow, phuketrichard, yong and 69 guests. Her parents who are separated had pleaded with not to go on her backpacking trip to Thailand because they feared for her safety, Laura (pictured) died on Monday, with her family saying today that their pain is 'indescribable'. None of the family was happy with her going there, but she had made her mind up.'. [92], Thailand's government became concerned the murders may affect tourism to the country. The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. However, she had completely forgotten the draw had taken place, Is Arsenal vs Everton on TV? Therefore, we would like to take this opportunity to ask that Hannah be allowed a well-deserved day of privacy on Friday whilst we join her many friends in a celebration of her life.". She had no alcohol in her system. 'There wasn't a bad bone in her body. We'll be dignified for David. 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Home Office pathologist Dr Nat Cary said Miss Witheridge had died from severe head injuries, consistent with multiple blows from the blade of a hoe wielded as a weapon and it was likely she would have died 'rapidly'. 'The pain of this loss is indescribable and our family very much need time and privacy during this unbearable time.'. But his family said at the time that they had not received an autopsy report and had suspicions about the death. After searching, All rights reserved. Hannah died shortly before she was due to start the second year of a speech and language masters degree at the University of Essex. The police were under pressure to produce results quickly, which affected how they conducted their investigation. The men who killed Till were not mentally ill and they were not penalized or ostracized for their actions. Measuring 21 square kilometres (8sqmi) in area, it is the smallest of three popular tourist islands in the Gulf of Thailand. To think that the scum who tortured and murdered a child got off and were able to brag about it later is just unbelievable. Police have, however, agreed to hand over the garden hoe which was the murder weapon, along with a shoe and a plastic bag. Video, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. September 16: DNA samples taken from the scene do not match those of any of a reported 12 suspects. On 15 September, the bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao, between 4 and 5am, a few hours after their deaths. We won't comment on the trial process. Very gruesome, theres one photo of his parents looking at him in the coffin and I really cant imagine what they mustve felt knowing theyd lost their son, he was murdered for nothing, and the horrible thing they were looking at was him. 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Zaw Lin, front, and Wai Phyo (also known as Win Zaw Htun), rear, arrive at the court in Koh Samui, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. [15], Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo retracted their statements following a visit from a consular lawyer for Myanmar and said they had made their statements under duress, after they had allegedly been beaten, left naked in a freezing room, and threatened with electrocution and an extrajudicial killing. Direct quotations from the trial are unavailable, as the judges did not permit the public to take notes. At the end of the trial's third day, the judge said police had informed him all the samples taken on the island were "finished" - meaning they could not be analysed again. A mix of clouds and sun. Two years after her sister was murdered, Laura wrote a Facebook postwarning people not to travel to Thailand claiming Westerners are hated in the country. 11:58 GMT 20 Sep 2014 "We beg that Hannah and David are afforded privacy and dignity through the removal of these pointless and insensitive reminders," they said. Published: 13:48 GMT, 17 September 2019 | Updated: 09:16 GMT, 18 September 2019. The defendants have repeatedly stated their innocence over the murders, with the defence alleging they were framed. [37] Two weeks after the bodies were found, on 1 October 2014, police interrogated Mau Mau, who said he took the motorcycle and separated from the other two men before the murders occurred, and found them both home asleep by the time he had returned. She spoke out last November at the sentencing of sadistic troll Paul Hind, 38, who was jailed for 14 months at Newcastle Crown Court. A CCTV video of a woman running near the scene is described but not released. What's he waiting for? "The past three weeks have been unimaginably difficult and there are no words that can adequately describe the heartache and despair that our family is experiencing. [50], An 18-day trial began on 8 July 2015 in the Koh Samui Provincial Court. Hannah (pictured right with a friend on Koh Tao shortly before she died) was backpacking in Thailand while studying at the University of Essex to be a speech therapist. [34][35], According to the prosecution in the subsequent case, CCTV footage analysed by the police showed three individuals riding a motorcycle to 7-Eleven, where they bought beer and cigarettes, before going towards Sairee Beach. Miller, 24, likely was killed with a blood-stained hoe found about 50 . Police believe that, just like in her murder, the two latest victims may have been killed by fishermen who swam ashore in order to target foreigners. Probably the links to those photos on other sites also. 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[88][89] Hacker group Anonymous published a video on 3 January 2016 criticising the verdict. The prosecution says a DNA match between samples found on Miss Witheridge's body and the two defendants is central to its case. [26][27] However, her clothes were not tested for DNA. Thai police have faced widespread domestic and international criticism for their handling of the case and the evidence. [1][11][18] A bloody hoe, believed to be the murder weapon, and a wooden club were found near the bodies,[19][4][14] along with three cigarette butts and a used condom. -, Press J to jump to the feed. Mrs Witheridge, 61, said in a statement how the lives of her family had been 'changed forever' by her murder. US firms waiting in the wings read to pump 'billions Parents' fury as schools STILL won't tell them if they are closed tomorrow as teacher strikes continue. Miss Witheridge's family said "senseless" photos of the crime scene had added to . In September 2014, two European backpackers, Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found murdered on Sairee Beach on Thailand's island of Koh Tao. Who is Constance Marten, the runaway aristocrat? the above report about the "son" sounds much too much like a "closing in" on the culprits. [3] The murders were the first cases of homicide on the island in over eight years. Copyright The Student Room 2023 all rights reserved. Their bodies were found at 6am. "We'll go with the flow as much as we can. They said in a family statement: 'We confirm that our beautiful girl Laura passed away on Monday, September 16. I should add that I was not representing the accused men so I am not presenting arguments on their behalf in any lawyer/client relationship. Speaking at the court, Mr Miller's father Ian said he and his wife Sue had come "with an open mind", adding that it had been an emotional time for the family. Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge's family beg for removal of graphic crime scene images circulating online Photos showing the battered bodies of Hannah, 23, and David Miller, 24, emerged . Police say it could be of a witness to the double murder, a suspect or of Miss Witheridge herself. [6] Miller had just completed his undergraduate degree in civil and structural engineering at the University of Leeds and was starting a masters degree. 15:22 GMT 21 Oct 2014. From the beginning, the Thai police had difficulty securing the crime scene. Hannah Witheridge 2014; Verdicts in the case are not expected until October. by General Mackevili Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:12 am, Post They stated they were driven by a desire to rape the victim following sexual arousal when they saw the couple kissing on the beach. However, at that time I was already aware of other tourist deaths on the island. Writing poignantly on the page she said: 'The past year has thrown our lives into disarray, tarnished our trust in anything and everything and made us question humanity. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. I click the link and it just gives me the wow such empty message. [94] She suggested using identification wristbands for tourists to improve safety, but the idea was quickly scrapped. [28], Due to concerns the murders might affect foreign tourism into Thailand, the national authorities sought to expedite the investigation into the murders. The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. Ben Ellery In Koh Tao, Thailand For Mail On Sunday Andrew Rosindell, a member of the Commons foreign affairs committee, said: 'What is most worrying about these comments is the underlying implication about those who have been murdered that they have somehow brought it upon themselves.'. What's he waiting for? The family said a funeral on Friday would be a private party to celebrate her life. "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they said in a statement. She said it is far from the beautiful country people talk of as she launched a scathing attack on the country saying many Thais had no regard for human life and treated people like dirt, Labelling Thai officials 'corrupt', she said court officials asked her family during the trial: 'Why are you here?' Last month it emerged that two Burmese migrants convicted of the murders faced execution after appeals against their conviction were thrown out. 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Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. [11], An autopsy revealed that both victims were hit by a hard object resulting in head and face wounds. [51][56][57] They argued that the defendants, since they were vulnerable as illegal migrant workers, were scapegoated by the police for the crime. [1][47] The national police chief, Somyot Poompanmoung, denied that torture was involved in the confessions. We hope you'll do the same? [76], The International Commission of Jurists said "the defense must be afforded adequate time and facilities to explore whether the alleged destruction of evidence in this case was appropriate and unavoidable, and to test the prosecution case overall." Could you please describe them? David and Hannah were found bludgeoned to death on this Thai beach early in September 2014, shortly beforeLin andPhyo were arrested. [85][15][86] Prayut said that British and Burmese government representatives were "limited to observation" and had to "respect our processes". He was travelling Southeast Asia with a friend after completing a six-week work placement in Australia with a mining company,[6][8][9] and arrived in Thailand in August. A police officer told the trial of the severe injuries Miss Witheridge suffered and evidence she had been raped. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. This could technically be counted as a crime scene as she was DUI but the aftermath of Nikki Catsouras (Porsche girl) crash is engrained on my brain forever. I'm asking if they wear bikinis in Thailand, will they be safe? He was found hiding on the boat later on 2 October. . Anthony Cardullo 2013 (USA); While collecting forensic evidence, tourists and locals were allowed to walk on the beach. Hannah Witheridge seen looking relaxed and wandering streets with . Silje Mathisen 2014; Due to the nature of her passing, our beautiful girl has had little privacy. EXCLUSIVE: Lanzarote sticks to its guns and insists it WILL limit tourists and move away from relying on Jeremy Clarkson is axed as Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? Following the murders, Koh Tao earned the nicknamed of 'death island' due to the number of western tourists who have died or gone missing there. Is Daisy Jones adaptation based on Fleetwood Mac? They said it was 'difficult to say' whether the pair's killer or killers was still on the island, and then claimed investigations had pointed them to a group seen on the beach playing the guitar and singing 'western songs'. Students Hannah and David had attended a beach party before slipping away together at around 1am on Monday. September 15: The semi-naked bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller are discovered between 5am and 6am on Sairee Beach in Koh Tao on September 15. No, what makes those pictures so terrifying is to know that many white Mississippians didn't see anything wrong with grown men torturing and killing a 13-year old black boy. said General Prayuth Chan-O-Cha in a televised speech. While Thai police are still investigating their deaths (the Burmese migrant workers, Zaw Lin and Win Zaq Htun, both 21, who previously confessed have now withdrawn their confessions) shocking photos of the backpackers' bodies are now circulating online, leaving their loved ones understandably horrified and disgusted. Read about our approach to external linking. Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh Tao. Police later say Miss Witheridge may not have been raped as first suggested following an autopsy on her body. We are here for David because of his tragic death. Police said that DNA semen samples taken from Hannahs body were from two men, both Asian. 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Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun were quickly arrested and later sentenced to death in 2015, a verdict that was upheld by the appeal court in 2017. - Dad's Army statue damaged by vandals for 3rd time, Firm announces FREE bus travel for mums on Mother's Day, Human error to blame for deadly train crash, says Greek PM, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Thailand is Cambodia's neighbor to the West, and this forum is dedicated to Thai news, stories, reviews, blogs, videos, Thai people and anything else related to the country. BBC correspondent Jonah Fisher said Miss Witheridge's father and brother sat with their heads bowed as the evidence was presented in court but continued listening. They said in a statement how the lives of her family had been 'changed forever ' by her murder statement. Dui class when I was 14 because I was already aware of other deaths. Suspicions about the `` son '' sounds much too much like a `` closing in '' the. 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